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bluegill
12-29-2010, 10:52 PM
Long story short an good buddy I trained with years ago got hooked on nubain then oxys, ne how I let him stay with me to get his shit together well hes been gone for three days and my old lady just noticed a bunch of her shit is missing, rings and shit. Wtf im in a bad spot but I cant have him stealing shit,what would yall do. I know its the drugs but ive done everything paid debts for him and all. Im thinking just get him a room for a few nites and hes on his own,beatting him ant gona do shit hes100pounds wet. Ne ideas, plus now shes in my fukin ear.

TheyCallMeX
12-29-2010, 11:21 PM
Long story short an good buddy I trained with years ago got hooked on nubain then oxys, ne how I let him stay with me to get his shit together well hes been gone for three days and my old lady just noticed a bunch of her shit is missing, rings and shit. Wtf im in a bad spot but I cant have him stealing shit,what would yall do. I know its the drugs but ive done everything paid debts for him and all. Im thinking just get him a room for a few nites and hes on his own,beatting him ant gona do shit hes100pounds wet. Ne ideas, plus now shes in my fukin ear.

Man, that is some seriously awful shit.

Look you've done all you can do for your friend, but addicts don't think in terms of friendships and/or reason. They think of how they are next going to get high and are going to do whatever it takes to get that fix...even if they have to step on some toes and fuck some friends over.

Confront your friend, and tell him what he has done is wrong. Be firm, but not aggressive. Tell him you care for him, and his life but there is only so much you can do for him. Try to convince him to voluntarily check into a clinic, and let him know you'll be there every step of the way to help him and back him up...

Make it clear to him that you are willing to do anything and everything to help him get clean again, but if he burns you, you will have no choice but to turn your back on him...

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

bluegill
12-30-2010, 12:23 AM
Thanx bro its hard to see him this way last year I paid 10grand for a rehab for him and he split after a week in. I just feel" like if he leaves and dies it would be on me somewhat. Its sad this guy was once 250pounds solid now hes like 112. Again thanx and good luck on ur squat goals that shits insane.

TheyCallMeX
12-30-2010, 12:49 AM
Thanx bro its hard to see him this way last year I paid 10grand for a rehab for him and he split after a week in. I just feel" like if he leaves and dies it would be on me somewhat. Its sad this guy was once 250pounds solid now hes like 112. Again thanx and good luck on ur squat goals that shits insane.

Man, that's a very kind hearted thing to do....but I hate to say it bro, you are doing/have done all you can. You can't carry that kind of burden on your shoulders and feel for someones decision. Just stay strong and be supportive, yet do not allow yourself and your family to be taken advantage of. Thanks for the best wishes on the squats man, but It's gonna be a long year/road. I'm gonna post a video at 50, then one at 100. Then one of the 150 attempt!

niko
12-30-2010, 02:44 PM
You are a good friend but you have to cut him loose and dont make it easy for him screw the room idea he will just steal the TV. Its up to him to be clean and let me tell you from experience its not easy practically the hardest thing i had to do. Good luck

DethKlok
12-30-2010, 04:31 PM
Niko got it.

ketsugo
12-30-2010, 04:40 PM
Bro- let this be a bitter life lesson. I do this professionally so trust me- NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER HELP OR TRUST AN ADDICT. YOU WILL ALWAYS REGRET IT. DROP EM OF AT A DETOX THATS IT THEN SAY SAYANARA

iron_dawg
01-03-2011, 04:55 PM
it's hard to do to a friend but your home is your safe house and where you and you girl lay your head at. If he is stealing from you tell him to get lost you tried and all he cared about was where he was going to get his next high. I have dealt with addicts before maybe when he is out on the streets and has no where to go and no money he will relize it is time to get straight. Sometimes that is what it takes for someone to get staight, it is hard to do to someone but sometimes you gotta turn your back on them.

Big B
01-04-2011, 09:51 AM
good luck and let us know how it goes Bluegill!

bluegill
01-04-2011, 10:10 AM
He left for the west coast I spoke with his family and they sent him to a rehab I sent him some cloths yesterday I hopee he changes.

rocco-x
01-04-2011, 06:12 PM
You are a good friend but you have to cut him loose and dont make it easy for him screw the room idea he will just steal the TV. Its up to him to be clean and let me tell you from experience its not easy practically the hardest thing i had to do. Good luckhe hit it.gotta tough love him before he kills himself.everyone enabled me one way or another.i'd wake up sick as hell,not a penny in my pocket but by noon i had at least a hundred to get off on.like magic.if my mother didn't threaten to call the cops when she found i robbed the whole house,if my wife didn't kick me out in the street and said she'd been fuckin another dude after 20yrs together,if my friends didn't turn me away i'd be fucking dead right now.no doubt.this is just the begining of the fun.wait'll the real shit starts happening.your car,her shit,your shit,scams,you name it.that's when you'll wanna just kill him.i did alotta good people really grimy.
only thing i couldn't do was snitch and did time over it too even tho the shit wasn't even mine.you don't know how far this kid'll go to get out of a jam.being sick,scared,locked up makes a young mother fucker do stupid shit.all of a sudden your door gets kicked in and they play"guess what we found" whether gear or dope that he planted.get him out now.i know it's hard but goin to his casket lookin at his body then his family and then the guilt will make you nuts.trust me on that if anything.tough love brother,tough fuckin love.he'll thank you in one way or another...

SYNTHRO-RX
01-04-2011, 06:49 PM
bro, its a sad story but, you got to cut ties...I have numerous friends over the past 2 years get strung out on roxys/oxys and their life has done nothing but go down hill...They will latch onto anybody they feel like they can use and try to manipulate. People on these pain pills are 10x worse than crackheads bro, they will lie, cheat, and steal from freinds and family. The best thing to do is to cut him off. And definetly dont be haviing him staying in your house!

Last year i had a friend, and this story sounds similar to yours. Him and his girlfriend got real bad on oxys and were 3 months behind on their car payment, his gf came to me and asked if i would help them out, so i gave them money to catch up their car payment. A week later, he came to me and asked if i would give him some money to pay some "court cost" or he was gonna have to go to jail, so i gave them money......WELL comes to find out they DIDNT use the money for the car payments and DIDNT use the money for the "court cost". He went to jail, and she lost her car.

Moral of the story, seperate yourself from pillheads cause they will use you, and use you brother.

bluegill
01-10-2011, 07:11 AM
Sofar hes doing good at the rehab

TheyCallMeX
01-10-2011, 07:59 AM
That's fantastic news bro keep us posted!!! Was he wanting to go?

bluegill
01-10-2011, 10:50 AM
I think so I bought him all new cloths to go , he really had no where to go but there, I know its rough I did nubain for years and beat it so I know he can, I also told him ill help him get a place if he sees it through

ketsugo
01-10-2011, 04:22 PM
I think so I bought him all new cloths to go , he really had no where to go but there, I know its rough I did nubain for years and beat it so I know he can, I also told him ill help him get a place if he sees it through

You did nubain, but were you addicted to oxy's too? Thats a whole other thing like apples and oranges. Oxy is like being addicted to heroine. Not to cast a dark shadow over your parade, but I do this for a living- He may not beat this first , 2nd , 3rd or for a long time. He needs to hit rock bottom and fix himself. Its great he is in a rehab place, however sometimes it back fires and they get a whole new bunch of contacts. DO NOT invest yourself - only he can do this. DO not let him back inyour life again or around your family until he is at least 2 years straight. Otherwise he will rob you and hurt you again and again . In 20 years I cant tell you how many friends and family members I have said these words too. They come to me and wonder why the addict dont get it?? I usually turn it around and ask why dont you? Tough lesson, but harder to live

ketsugo
01-10-2011, 04:26 PM
AFter my post hit I just read what Rocco and NIko shared - These guys are right on. If you cant do this and Im trying to be a friend by saying this to you- then you need to see a professional- codependence will kill you in this situation. Do not lift a finger any more - you will lose. Im saying this to help you. YOU CAN NOT help an addict. Never. You can not believe an addict- they will always be an addict - addicts lie.

bluegill
01-10-2011, 05:32 PM
Nah me never oxcys just bain for a while I just rode it out thanx for all the advice

niko
01-10-2011, 05:53 PM
Blue, do you think your addicted to the addict? I dont like the fact he had no place else to go this tells me he is in for another ride once he gets out. How long is this rehab for? anything less than 6 months will not be enough and i think its good you are not giving up on him but you have to go about it the rite way. If you are 100% in this he wont have a chance unless professionals are there to help you. Hope this helps a bit.

bluegill
01-10-2011, 07:29 PM
Its 12months im gona just let it go and see how he is in a year I guess just suks he was a great bro in the past just a fukin shame

bluegill
01-10-2011, 07:32 PM
I told his mom im out of it till hes out and clean

niko
01-10-2011, 08:02 PM
Its 12months im gona just let it go and see how he is in a year I guess just suks he was a great bro in the past just a fukin shame

If he was as solid as you say Im sure deep down he hates what's become of himself. When that shit gets a hold of you its a MOTHERF*CKER! Maybe you backing off him will open his eyes a bit you never know but you cant let him in your life unless he does the full 12 months and moves into sober living. I hope you get your friend back some day but if not it is what it is, you tried.