Fixes for Kidney problems?
Hey guys,
need some help.
Got a friend who's been using gear for at least 3yrs straight, maybe even 4 or 5. But he stays away from the harsher stuff and uses anywhere from 200mg-600mg per week of goodies. Sometimes its test only 200mg per week, sometimes its test + Eq for a total of 400mg per week or whatever. Once in a while he'll use 3 different injects but thats it. He's hardly ever touched any orals over the years and when he did, it was only for 1-2 mos at a time of dbol.
Long story short, he exercises regularly and tries to eat right. Takes a multivitamin 3x per day, drinks at least 1/2 gallon of water per day, eats normal size meals at least 3x per day. He's been getting his blood work checked every year or so for about 10yrs now.
Of course his LDL (bad cholesterol) has been slightly elevated and his HDL (good cholesterol) has been low for most of that time. Not to mention his triglycerides and blood pressure has been borderline from high normal to high over the past few years. Obviously his LH, FSH, and test levels are pretty much non-existent. (those last 3 are a "given" whenever you stay on gear for over 3 mos at a time)
I'm not sure if he's ever had kidney values checked before -he's checking on his past labs and will LMK- but his new Dr. recently checked them and it doesnt look good. His kidneys are only filtering about 50% of what normal kidneys filter per day.
Has anybody else ever had this problem? What do you think caused it? What did you do to fix it or bring it back close to normal?
~ his stats~
He's between 30-40yrs old, nearly 6' tall, 200lbs, about 10% bodyfat, and has no family history of kidney disease.
So far his Dr. told him to stay off the juice for good, stay away from TV dinners, processed foods and excess salt, and eat more fruits + vegetables. Oh yeah, plus the Dr. seems to think bringing his blood pressure down to the middle of the normal range will be a big help, so he prescribed an ACE inhibitor and wants to recheck his kidneys in 1 month.
What do you guys think? Has this ever happened to anyone? It's a little scary (I would think).
I did some research on side effects caused by steroids, and kidney issues were minimal at best. Especially when staying away from Anadrol and other 17A-Alkalated orals.
He doesn't really want to stop the juice, he loves all the good things it does for you, but then again when your health is in question...
Re: Fixes for Kidney problems?
One of the biggest problems that DESTROY our kidneys is over consumption of certain foods(mainly eating too much protei)-some people are more sensitive and therefore their kidneys wont do a good job over time,does he has any history of kidney disease in the family?(thats a big factor also)...as far as supplements,there really arent too many EFFECTIVE supplements that will make a significant difference....yeah,cranberry juice and all the other healthy "kidney herbs supplements"(whatever kidney supplements are over the counter and sell in regular vitamin stores...)-are good to use,but when it comes to a person that is cliniclly with a known kidney disfunction-i would see a GOOD nephrologist to get an opinion better than a family or an internal medicine doctor.
As far as drugs that affect the kidney negative(all the known AAS)-some are a worse some are not(Halotestin is a good example...)-they all do the same negative effect...
bottom line,tell him to look for a good nephrologist. GOOD LUCK.
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How was his use of NSAIDs? Ibuprofen can really screw up your kidneys. That, combined with hypertension can be a bad combo. I was taking about 1600 mg of ibuprofen prior to my last blood test and my creatinine came back at 1.6:eek:
What was his creatinine level?
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i was havin similar problems when i was runnin tren ace at 75-100mg/ed for almost 6 weeks.pains inside the lower back,could hardly piss,etc... i stopped the tren,got on caber and propecia(for the prostrate)increased my fluids,not just water but pedialyte(good lookin out Niko),cranberry juice and some eastern medicinal herbs for the kidneys.my biggest fear is to be on dialysis for life.i'll take the .25cents solution.a hollow point .38 plus p round t othe cranium.no doubt.just hope the gun don't jam like the 1st 2 times.
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rocco-x
i was havin similar problems when i was runnin tren ace at 75-100mg/ed for almost 6 weeks.pains inside the lower back,could hardly piss,etc... i stopped the tren,got on caber and propecia(for the prostrate)increased my fluids,not just water but pedialyte(good lookin out Niko),cranberry juice and some eastern medicinal herbs for the kidneys.my biggest fear is to be on dialysis for life.i'll take the .25cents solution.a hollow point .38 plus p round t othe cranium.no doubt.just hope the gun don't jam like the 1st 2 times.
Im glad the gun jammed on you twice. I think that's a sign you aint getn out that easy mother fucker LOL. Really im glad your here bro but remind me not to ask you to shoot anyone:p
JK hows your boy doin?
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Yeah 20 years of NSAID abuse could definitely do it... I believe. I'm no nephrologist.
That absolutely blows my mind that the docs told him that. But then if it was twenty years ago... maybe they didn't know. As far as I understand it NSAIDs constrict the afferent renal artery and thereby decrease glomerular filtration rate (GFR). Over time this could not only lead to a buildup in creatinine and blood urea nitrogen (the byproduct of protein metabolism) but a permanent reduction in GFR. I'm not positive on that but from memory... that's what I got.
As far as a lawsuit goes? Who knows, could he really prove that they said that? At the time they said it was there research showing that NSAIDs (when abused) could cause kidney damage? If this thing is going to kill him... or significantly shorten his life, and he has a good case it might be worth it so he has some money to leave to his family. But you also have to consider that he would be dealing with lawyers. It's been my experience that lawyers that are "on your side" screw you as hard as the ones that are against you.
Sorry for the ramble. Just my thoughts.