first time user

**msm1179** · 08-29-2007, 11:53 PM

im looking to start a cycle as soon as possible i got a couple friends that just got off and loved it. i been doing a lil research for about three months and been working out for the last three years naturally. i was just woundering if getting and using dbol and test e for 12 weeks for my first cycle was smart or what any help would be very helpful.

**Strateg0s** · 08-30-2007, 12:49 AM

Test e for 12 weeks, with dbol to start things off for a few weeks is a good beginner cycle. As to the best dosages, really it isn't going to take too much for you to see good results the first time around, even 250mg of test-e per week should give you good gains, and more than that will speed things up - to a point. You shouldn't need more than 500mg/wk for your first cycle. What is most important is your diet, hard training with perfect form, and your rest and recovery. Dialing those things in is way easier said than done, but if you are far off with that, the gains from using gear will be less than you hope for. If you want more help, post up your stats and goals, and I'm sure you'll get lots of helpful feedback. That's what these forums are for, afterall. Also look around at the relevant articles and posts here, particularly those stickied to the top of the various subforums. You should learn a lot. Welcome to the board.

**flex95** · 08-30-2007, 06:58 AM

msm strategos gave u good info. butlike he said post ur stats and we can help u more

**miss diesel** · 08-30-2007, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by flex95

msm strategos gave u good info. butlike he said post ur stats and we can help u more

male
5ft8
180lbs
14%bf

**flex95** · 08-30-2007, 05:23 PM

ok vinny beat you to that one lol. To quick for all vinny

**msm1179** · 08-30-2007, 09:41 PM

arms 16"
chest 44"
stomach 33"
and thigh is 26" do i need to put anything else

**Juicd** · 08-30-2007, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by msm1179

arms 16"
chest 44"
stomach 33"
and thigh is 26" do i need to put anything else

Hight and BF%

**msm1179** · 08-31-2007, 02:11 AM

5'8"
13.5 bf

**msm1179** · 08-31-2007, 08:10 PM

i dont know if im suppose to ask this but was is the best way to get in touch with a sorce

**Juicd** · 08-31-2007, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by msm1179

i dont know if im suppose to ask this but was is the best way to get in touch with a sorce

Secure email acc. cyber-rights ect..

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