Man - who cares about that crap when you have Testosterone. Those drugs are a ploy by the drug companies to maintain that injecting Test is an "evil" thing that only crazed bodybuilders and homicidal wrestlers use. Even at very minimal dosages, i.e. 150-200mg/wk of Test E any 80 year old will have a quality sex drive and nice wood. I just think all this stuff is complete marketing nonsense to an overly syringe-fearful public that doesn't want to believe that an injected hormone is actually better for you that a pill. Wake up people, it's a HORMONE - it wasn't meant to be introduced through your digestive system.