Fixes for Kidney problems?

[rocco-x]

Tweeti was havin similar problems when i was runnin tren ace at 75-100mg/ed for almost 6 weeks.pains inside the lower back,could hardly piss,etc... i stopped the tren,got on caber and propecia(for the prostrate)increased my fluids,not just water but pedialyte(good lookin out Niko),cranberry juice and some eastern medicinal herbs for the kidneys.my biggest fear is to be on dialysis for life.i'll take the .25cents solution.a hollow point .38 plus p round t othe cranium.no doubt.just hope the gun don't jam like the 1st 2 times.

[niko]

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i was havin similar problems when i was runnin tren ace at 75-100mg/ed for almost 6 weeks.pains inside the lower back,could hardly piss,etc... i stopped the tren,got on caber and propecia(for the prostrate)increased my fluids,not just water but pedialyte(good lookin out Niko),cranberry juice and some eastern medicinal herbs for the kidneys.my biggest fear is to be on dialysis for life.i'll take the .25cents solution.a hollow point .38 plus p round t othe cranium.no doubt.just hope the gun don't jam like the 1st 2 times.

Im glad the gun jammed on you twice. I think that's a sign you aint getn out that easy mother fucker LOL. Really im glad your here bro but remind me not to ask you to shoot anyone

JK hows your boy doin?

[JerkKILLER]

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Unfortunately that's exactly what I think caused it, abuse of NSAIDS.

He's had back problems for about 20yrs now and he went thru some rough times a few years back. He lost a lot of muscle mass and gained some fat back then which aggravated his back even more. He talked to 2 different doc's -at that time- about what he could use to help with the pain and muscle tightness.

The doc's prescribed a muscle relaxer and told him to use NSAIDS. He specifically asked them how much he should take and if there were any dangers. They both replied "as often as you want, up to 2400mg per day, there's hardly any sides to worry about, you'll be fine"

Can you believe that shit!? They were doctors, they were professionals, he took them at their word and didn't consult anyone else about the possible side effects or bodily damage that could occur. After all, the docs said there's nothing to worry about.
So yeah, he took 800mg three times per day for 1-2yrs straight.

Maybe a lawsuit is in order? What do you guys think?



niko-

he's hanging in there, stopped using NSAIDS 99% of the time, and now only uses the ant-acid famotadine when he needs it. Which is like 2x per week instead of 2x per day which he's done for the past 2-3yrs straight.

Due to calorie restriction and the fact he should only eat certain foods he's probably lost 20lbs by now. All his clothes that used to be tight (because of his musculature) are now all loose. He's had to tighten his belt at least 3 notches! He hates it, but he's trying to stick with it.

He's suppose to STOP eating meat since it's the kidney's job to break down the proteins we eat into the smaller amino acids our bodies can use. But he hasn't been able to. Going a day with no meat makes him really hungry, the whey protein + Flax oil shakes aren't doing it.

One more month to go before he has to go back and get rechecked. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.



thanks for the inquiry

[theclap]

TweetYeah 20 years of NSAID abuse could definitely do it... I believe. I'm no nephrologist.

That absolutely blows my mind that the docs told him that. But then if it was twenty years ago... maybe they didn't know. As far as I understand it NSAIDs constrict the afferent renal artery and thereby decrease glomerular filtration rate (GFR). Over time this could not only lead to a buildup in creatinine and blood urea nitrogen (the byproduct of protein metabolism) but a permanent reduction in GFR. I'm not positive on that but from memory... that's what I got.

As far as a lawsuit goes? Who knows, could he really prove that they said that? At the time they said it was there research showing that NSAIDs (when abused) could cause kidney damage? If this thing is going to kill him... or significantly shorten his life, and he has a good case it might be worth it so he has some money to leave to his family. But you also have to consider that he would be dealing with lawyers. It's been my experience that lawyers that are "on your side" screw you as hard as the ones that are against you.

Sorry for the ramble. Just my thoughts.

[JerkKILLER]

TweetGood points Mr. Clap-

that first paragraph sounds about right to me. One thing you left out though would be that since the arteries are constricted with NSAID use, the kidneys arent getting 100% of the normal blood flow or oxygen that they're suppose to get. If this happens for too long, parts of the kidney will start to die and yes, GFR will take a huge nosedive because of it.

For clarification, he didnt take 2400mg a day for 20yrs. Some days he would take that much and some days he'd take anywhere from 600-1000mg/day on average. There were even some days when he got lucky and didnt need to take any at all.

But still, continued regular use of NSAIDS at least 3-5 days per week over 20yrs would seriously hurt the kidneys IMO.

Yeah 20 years of NSAID abuse could definitely do it... I believe. I'm no nephrologist.

That absolutely blows my mind that the docs told him that. But then if it was twenty years ago... maybe they didn't know. As far as I understand it NSAIDs constrict the afferent renal artery and thereby decrease glomerular filtration rate (GFR). Over time this could not only lead to a buildup in creatinine and blood urea nitrogen (the byproduct of protein metabolism) but a permanent reduction in GFR. I'm not positive on that but from memory... that's what I got.

As far as a lawsuit goes? Who knows, could he really prove that they said that? At the time they said it was there research showing that NSAIDs (when abused) could cause kidney damage? If this thing is going to kill him... or significantly shorten his life, and he has a good case it might be worth it so he has some money to leave to his family. But you also have to consider that he would be dealing with lawyers. It's been my experience that lawyers that are "on your side" screw you as hard as the ones that are against you.

Sorry for the ramble. Just my thoughts.