thanks man. i really dont think it is turning out to be all that bad of a tear. it is still alittle swollen and tender but the swelling and bruise is almost competely faded today. i can put my arm above my head and have full range of motion. hell i only lost full range for a day. i am still definately not going to attempt to do anything with my chest or shoulder for at least 4wks or more. the majority of my pain has been in my shoulder. i had a good bro take a look at it and i hit a few light poses to see the damage. you cant tell anything other than a small indent on the outside kinda like phil health and some of the other guys look just not as big and deep