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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by TheyCallMeX View Post
      God, this pisses me off. How DARE the government do anything to help anyone? An entitlement mentality. The welfare system needs to be abolished and have private charity put in place--but you are sitting here saying NOTHING need be provided to anyone needing help by this country.

      Ohhhhh yeah bro....what a big bad thing! How dare the government do something about the General Welfare?! That's not in the constitution--wait....wait.. "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE..."

      Oh yeah, that is in there.

      If you have seen or heard, we are 14 trillion in debt right now. We can not afford to be helping out people who do not want to work.

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

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      If you have seen or heard, we are 14 trillion in debt right now. We can not afford to be helping out people who do not want to work.

      So the people who did work, got laid off, have had their unemployment run out and have hungry children are not supposed to be looked after? You are speaking as if every person on welfare doesn't seek or look for work and we should just cut them out and forget about them all together.

      We are 14 trillion in debt because we spend ungodly amounts of money on two wars! People forget that history repeats itself. Rome and many other great empires fell because of an attempt at a military conquest, bankrupted the empire, and diminished. We need to stop putting so much money into WAR/Military and start putting MORE into EDUCATION!

      Does anybody remember what happened when states ran the educational system and plenty of cash was dropped into education? What happened?

      IBM, Apple, Microsoft, and many other technological advances that only education could help establish.

      We WERE the worlds superpower. As long as the media keeps telling us we're the greatest nation in the world and people continue to believe it, we'll continue giving up our rights one at a time until its Germany all over again.

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      i am just going to throw out there that gitmo has been there since prior to 1996 and its purpose is to detain persons from outside nations. we could have used anywhere in germany italy purteo rico etc... it would be kinda retarded to store these detainees over in the theater of conflict. just throwing it out there. if it were up to me and they were found guilty i would go saudi style with public beheadings.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TheyCallMeX View Post
      So the people who did work, got laid off, have had their unemployment run out and have hungry children are not supposed to be looked after? You are speaking as if every person on welfare doesn't seek or look for work and we should just cut them out and forget about them all together.

      We are 14 trillion in debt because we spend ungodly amounts of money on two wars! People forget that history repeats itself. Rome and many other great empires fell because of an attempt at a military conquest, bankrupted the empire, and diminished. We need to stop putting so much money into WAR/Military and start putting MORE into EDUCATION!

      Does anybody remember what happened when states ran the educational system and plenty of cash was dropped into education? What happened?

      IBM, Apple, Microsoft, and many other technological advances that only education could help establish.

      We WERE the worlds superpower. As long as the media keeps telling us we're the greatest nation in the world and people continue to believe it, we'll continue giving up our rights one at a time until its Germany all over again.
      It is a proven fact/statistic that when your unemployment runs out you find a job within 3 weeks. I know a ton of ppl who sat on umemployment for over a year not even looking for a job. Why look when the government is paying you to sit on your ass. You are exactly what I described, liberal wanting free rides. Its called the nanny state. You people want government to take care of you. How about taking care of yourself. Like I said, Master Obama who was going to save the world promised to get us out of the two wars you speak of instead we are still there and now we are in Libya.

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by TheyCallMeX View Post
      No no! Libertarian sir! Much different.

      Liberals WANT government involvement in Economic matters (welfare, medicaid, etc) but DO NOT government involvement in Moral matters (abortion, gay marriage, etc)

      Conservatives WANT government involvement in moral matters such as abortion, and gay marriage but DO NOT want government involvement in Economic matters.

      Libertarians do not want government involvement in economic OR moral matters!
      You didn't really get this right, you are not wrong but you will missed alot. Liberals want Big government and entitlements. They are ok with high taxes on the people who work to pay for these entitlements.

      Conservatives believe in the constitution. They want state governments to run their own states. They want a very small Fed government. They want very low taxes and zero entitlements (wel-fare).

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