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    Thread: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Very good points by everyone here

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by TheyCallMeX View Post
      God, this pisses me off. How DARE the government do anything to help anyone? An entitlement mentality. The welfare system needs to be abolished and have private charity put in place--but you are sitting here saying NOTHING need be provided to anyone needing help by this country.

      Ohhhhh yeah bro....what a big bad thing! How dare the government do something about the General Welfare?! That's not in the constitution--wait....wait.. "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE..."

      Oh yeah, that is in there.

      If you have seen or heard, we are 14 trillion in debt right now. We can not afford to be helping out people who do not want to work.

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

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      I don't like the tea party because they don't know how to answer questions and michelle bachman makes women in politics or future women in politics look extremely incompetent with her inaccurate statements hence why a 16 year old challenged her to an open debate on the US Constitution!

      And as far as saying Conservatives care about the US Constitution answer me this:

      WHERE DO YOU FIND 'ENEMY COMBATANT' IN THE US CONSTITUTION?

      CONSERVATIVES don't create things such as THE PATRIOT ACT, which RAPE the liberties and freedoms this country was founded on!

      CONSERVATIVES don't invade countries for an exchange of BLOOD over OIL!

      CONSERVATIVES don't create GUANTANAMO BAY and strip away HABEAS CORPUS!

      Conservatives want LOW TAXES and ECONOMIC FREEDOM? HA! Hence why they're all endorsed and they EMPOWER CORPORATIONS. We don't have a DEMOCRACY we have a GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED BY CORPORATIONS.

      Conservatives are SUPPOSED to be for the constitution, but in my years and from what I've learned THEY ARE NOT!

      And since you have declared me such an 'idiot liberal' let me just make something known:

      I've got a COLLEGE DEGREE and I'm pursuing a GRADUATE DEGREE. I tried to enlist in the US Marines, the US Army, and the fucking Navy, but because of your precious conservatives in Congress, I can't. Why? Because I have a small dent in my record for use of anabolic steroid use. So don't dare say I want a fucking government handout, because I am working my way through life and pursuing the dead american dream.

      I did not declare you an idiot liberal, you pretty much did that for yourself. I am not being mean but you seem like you just repeat what the media has told you. Everything you mentioned in your rant Obama has done. Wasnt he supposed to get rid of the Patriot act? Wasnt he supposed to shut down GITMO? Werent we supposed to be out of Iraq and Afgan? Problem is we keep putting in these puppets in office. We have not had a conservative in office since I was born anyway, maybe Reagan. Look into Ron Paul, his son Rand, or even Herman Cain. People like that are the people that might have a chance of changing things.

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by Downtown View Post
      I did not declare you an idiot liberal, you pretty much did that for yourself. I am not being mean but you seem like you just repeat what the media has told you. Everything you mentioned in your rant Obama has done. Wasnt he supposed to get rid of the Patriot act? Wasnt he supposed to shut down GITMO? Werent we supposed to be out of Iraq and Afgan? Problem is we keep putting in these puppets in office. We have not had a conservative in office since I was born anyway, maybe Reagan. Look into Ron Paul, his son Rand, or even Herman Cain. People like that are the people that might have a chance of changing things.

      "You another one of those left wing idiots who wants a free ride at the expense of the people who work."

      Yes, you did.

      Bro I don't even watch the news/media. My statements are based off of sheer actions that these people have taken and done in public office.

      "Everything you mentioned in your rant Obama has done. Wasnt he supposed to get rid of the Patriot act? Wasnt he supposed to shut down GITMO? Werent we supposed to be out of Iraq and Afgan?"

      Wrong.

      Bush started the Patriot Act.

      Bush/Cheney did GITMO.

      Bush/Cheney, your 'conservatives' who care about the constitution went into Iraq and Afghanistan who are really what are known as neo-conservatives.

      Rand Paul committed political suicide on Rachel Maddows show. She tried doing everything by throwing him a rope and saying, "Dude, you are drowning! Grab on and let me pull you out!" so he's pretty much fucked.

      Ron Paul would be fantastic, but the same entitlements he speaks out against other states getting he accepts for his great state of Texas! We don't have ANYONE who isn't a puppet running. Even if we did have a fantastic candidate never forget this, "It does not matter votes, only who counts the votes." -Stalin

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by Downtown View Post
      If you have seen or heard, we are 14 trillion in debt right now. We can not afford to be helping out people who do not want to work.

      So the people who did work, got laid off, have had their unemployment run out and have hungry children are not supposed to be looked after? You are speaking as if every person on welfare doesn't seek or look for work and we should just cut them out and forget about them all together.

      We are 14 trillion in debt because we spend ungodly amounts of money on two wars! People forget that history repeats itself. Rome and many other great empires fell because of an attempt at a military conquest, bankrupted the empire, and diminished. We need to stop putting so much money into WAR/Military and start putting MORE into EDUCATION!

      Does anybody remember what happened when states ran the educational system and plenty of cash was dropped into education? What happened?

      IBM, Apple, Microsoft, and many other technological advances that only education could help establish.

      We WERE the worlds superpower. As long as the media keeps telling us we're the greatest nation in the world and people continue to believe it, we'll continue giving up our rights one at a time until its Germany all over again.

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      i am just going to throw out there that gitmo has been there since prior to 1996 and its purpose is to detain persons from outside nations. we could have used anywhere in germany italy purteo rico etc... it would be kinda retarded to store these detainees over in the theater of conflict. just throwing it out there. if it were up to me and they were found guilty i would go saudi style with public beheadings.

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by TheyCallMeX View Post
      So the people who did work, got laid off, have had their unemployment run out and have hungry children are not supposed to be looked after? You are speaking as if every person on welfare doesn't seek or look for work and we should just cut them out and forget about them all together.

      We are 14 trillion in debt because we spend ungodly amounts of money on two wars! People forget that history repeats itself. Rome and many other great empires fell because of an attempt at a military conquest, bankrupted the empire, and diminished. We need to stop putting so much money into WAR/Military and start putting MORE into EDUCATION!

      Does anybody remember what happened when states ran the educational system and plenty of cash was dropped into education? What happened?

      IBM, Apple, Microsoft, and many other technological advances that only education could help establish.

      We WERE the worlds superpower. As long as the media keeps telling us we're the greatest nation in the world and people continue to believe it, we'll continue giving up our rights one at a time until its Germany all over again.
      It is a proven fact/statistic that when your unemployment runs out you find a job within 3 weeks. I know a ton of ppl who sat on umemployment for over a year not even looking for a job. Why look when the government is paying you to sit on your ass. You are exactly what I described, liberal wanting free rides. Its called the nanny state. You people want government to take care of you. How about taking care of yourself. Like I said, Master Obama who was going to save the world promised to get us out of the two wars you speak of instead we are still there and now we are in Libya.

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by TheyCallMeX View Post
      "You another one of those left wing idiots who wants a free ride at the expense of the people who work."


      Bro I don't even watch the news/media. My statements are based off of sheer actions that these people have taken and done in public office.
      Then how do you know the actions if you do not watch the new or read the paper?



      Bush started the Patriot Act. Obama extended it

      Bush/Cheney did GITMO. What?? Are you saying Bush started GITMO

      Bush/Cheney, your 'conservatives' who care about the constitution went into Iraq and Afghanistan who are really what are known as neo-conservatives.
      Bush/Cheney are not conservatives, they grew the government and tripled our debt in 8 years. Not exactly conservative policies.

      Rand Paul committed political suicide on Rachel Maddows show. She tried doing everything by throwing him a rope and saying, "Dude, you are drowning! Grab on and let me pull you out!" so he's pretty much fucked.
      Rachel Maddow LOL that dyke bitch, are you serious. Now I see where you get your news and its starting to make sense
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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by guns01 View Post
      i am just going to throw out there that gitmo has been there since prior to 1996 and its purpose is to detain persons from outside nations. we could have used anywhere in germany italy purteo rico etc... it would be kinda retarded to store these detainees over in the theater of conflict. just throwing it out there. if it were up to me and they were found guilty i would go saudi style with public beheadings.
      I agree. I deployed to Camp Bucca in Iraq back in 05, it was a huge prison camp and you worried all the time about being attacked. IMO it was dumb having that many Terrorists right there in Iraq. One good attack and riot and a bunch could have escaped.

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by Downtown View Post
      It is a proven fact/statistic that when your unemployment runs out you find a job within 3 weeks. You are exactly what I described, liberal wanting free rides. How about taking care of yourself


      1. Show me a source citing that its a proven fact/statistic that when unemployment finds out, anyone can find a job within 3 weeks.

      2. You haven't read anything I've said--that is apparent. I said I want welfare abolished and private charity put in, and you say I want a liberal wanting a free ride? Those are the ideologies proposed by RON PAUL, the conservative that you support!

      3. As for taking care of myself, hahaha. See, you tea baggers talk as if you are all about taking care of one self, but I bet you personally went to a public school. You tea baggers always go on about how socialism is what is going to lead to the destruction to this nation and how you're true libertarians, and the government should do nothing whatsoever for the people.

      If you took out student loans, you have supported socialism.

      If you received Federal Pell Grants, you have supported socialism.

      If you have children that go to public schools, you have supported socialism!

      If you drive on a fucking highway or interstate, YOU HAVE SUPPORTED SOCIALISM!

      If you went to a public school, You have supported socialism!

      Even your retirement is socialized!

      Without socialism we wouldn't HAVE public schools! Parents would have to pay out of pocket for their children to go to private schools. You say you want everyone to do everything on their own, and do not condone any government 'handouts' ? I would love to hear these same words come out of your mouth when you can't afford to pay for your children to go to a fucking school, have no roads to drive on, and have no way to pay for your own furthered education into college.

      The Tea Party is so full of shit.

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