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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by TheyCallMeX View Post
      No no! Libertarian sir! Much different.

      Liberals WANT government involvement in Economic matters (welfare, medicaid, etc) but DO NOT government involvement in Moral matters (abortion, gay marriage, etc)

      Conservatives WANT government involvement in moral matters such as abortion, and gay marriage but DO NOT want government involvement in Economic matters.

      Libertarians do not want government involvement in economic OR moral matters!
      You say you are a libertarian? Weird so am I and the strange thing so are most members of the same Tea Party you are bashing. You are really showing the only you have is what comes from the liberal media. And I do not believe you are a libertarian. You another one of those left wing idiots who wants a free ride at the expense of the people who work.

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by Downtown View Post
      You say you are a libertarian? Weird so am I and the strange thing so are most members of the same Tea Party you are bashing. You are really showing the only you have is what comes from the liberal media. And I do not believe you are a libertarian. You another one of those left wing idiots who wants a free ride at the expense of the people who work.
      I don't like the tea party because they don't know how to answer questions and michelle bachman makes women in politics or future women in politics look extremely incompetent with her inaccurate statements hence why a 16 year old challenged her to an open debate on the US Constitution!

      And as far as saying Conservatives care about the US Constitution answer me this:

      WHERE DO YOU FIND 'ENEMY COMBATANT' IN THE US CONSTITUTION?

      CONSERVATIVES don't create things such as THE PATRIOT ACT, which RAPE the liberties and freedoms this country was founded on!

      CONSERVATIVES don't invade countries for an exchange of BLOOD over OIL!

      CONSERVATIVES don't create GUANTANAMO BAY and strip away HABEAS CORPUS!

      Conservatives want LOW TAXES and ECONOMIC FREEDOM? HA! Hence why they're all endorsed and they EMPOWER CORPORATIONS. We don't have a DEMOCRACY we have a GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED BY CORPORATIONS.

      Conservatives are SUPPOSED to be for the constitution, but in my years and from what I've learned THEY ARE NOT!

      And since you have declared me such an 'idiot liberal' let me just make something known:

      I've got a COLLEGE DEGREE and I'm pursuing a GRADUATE DEGREE. I tried to enlist in the US Marines, the US Army, and the fucking Navy, but because of your precious conservatives in Congress, I can't. Why? Because I have a small dent in my record for use of anabolic steroid use. So don't dare say I want a fucking government handout, because I am working my way through life and pursuing the dead american dream.

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      just a heads up mr obama signed the extension for the patriot act again yesterday.
      as for the constitution protecting terrorist and such: here is what i think (what the sheep dont know about how we gain intel will not hurt us)
      we need places like gitmo for those terrorist suspects(would you like them in our fed pens, they arent necessarily citizens)
      i dont think any enemy of our country has any rights whatsoever(i include illegal aliens in this area also) you can come here legally then you will rate rights.
      i have absolutely no problem with torture none whatsoever. if you do then you should goggle up nick bergs videos or the numerous other beheadings that these wonderful people that dont deserve to get sent to gitmo have posted for all to see. the russian soldier getting his throat cut out is another good one.
      these people dont follow the rules so why should we. cause we are better more civilized i dont think so.

      as far as invading countries trading blood for oil. i hate this theory so frigging bad 1 because in case no one noticed gas has sky rocketed ever since we went into iraq. 2. we liberated a oppressed country that in some areas was basically living in the stone age. 3. damn near every person and family that i have encountered in my vast travels to these lovely countries loves us and thanked us more than our own population does. oh wait except when every swinging dick was on the patriotic bandwagon after 9/11 funny how fast that went away. then again their are still some damn fine support out there.
      sorry for the extensive rant. i love debates.

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by TheyCallMeX View Post
      I don't like the tea party because they don't know how to answer questions and michelle bachman makes women in politics or future women in politics look extremely incompetent with her inaccurate statements hence why a 16 year old challenged her to an open debate on the US Constitution!

      And as far as saying Conservatives care about the US Constitution answer me this:

      WHERE DO YOU FIND 'ENEMY COMBATANT' IN THE US CONSTITUTION?

      CONSERVATIVES don't create things such as THE PATRIOT ACT, which RAPE the liberties and freedoms this country was founded on!

      CONSERVATIVES don't invade countries for an exchange of BLOOD over OIL!

      CONSERVATIVES don't create GUANTANAMO BAY and strip away HABEAS CORPUS!

      Conservatives want LOW TAXES and ECONOMIC FREEDOM? HA! Hence why they're all endorsed and they EMPOWER CORPORATIONS. We don't have a DEMOCRACY we have a GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED BY CORPORATIONS.

      Conservatives are SUPPOSED to be for the constitution, but in my years and from what I've learned THEY ARE NOT!

      And since you have declared me such an 'idiot liberal' let me just make something known:

      I've got a COLLEGE DEGREE and I'm pursuing a GRADUATE DEGREE. I tried to enlist in the US Marines, the US Army, and the fucking Navy, but because of your precious conservatives in Congress, I can't. Why? Because I have a small dent in my record for use of anabolic steroid use. So don't dare say I want a fucking government handout, because I am working my way through life and pursuing the dead american dream.

      I did not declare you an idiot liberal, you pretty much did that for yourself. I am not being mean but you seem like you just repeat what the media has told you. Everything you mentioned in your rant Obama has done. Wasnt he supposed to get rid of the Patriot act? Wasnt he supposed to shut down GITMO? Werent we supposed to be out of Iraq and Afgan? Problem is we keep putting in these puppets in office. We have not had a conservative in office since I was born anyway, maybe Reagan. Look into Ron Paul, his son Rand, or even Herman Cain. People like that are the people that might have a chance of changing things.

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by Downtown View Post
      I did not declare you an idiot liberal, you pretty much did that for yourself. I am not being mean but you seem like you just repeat what the media has told you. Everything you mentioned in your rant Obama has done. Wasnt he supposed to get rid of the Patriot act? Wasnt he supposed to shut down GITMO? Werent we supposed to be out of Iraq and Afgan? Problem is we keep putting in these puppets in office. We have not had a conservative in office since I was born anyway, maybe Reagan. Look into Ron Paul, his son Rand, or even Herman Cain. People like that are the people that might have a chance of changing things.

      "You another one of those left wing idiots who wants a free ride at the expense of the people who work."

      Yes, you did.

      Bro I don't even watch the news/media. My statements are based off of sheer actions that these people have taken and done in public office.

      "Everything you mentioned in your rant Obama has done. Wasnt he supposed to get rid of the Patriot act? Wasnt he supposed to shut down GITMO? Werent we supposed to be out of Iraq and Afgan?"

      Wrong.

      Bush started the Patriot Act.

      Bush/Cheney did GITMO.

      Bush/Cheney, your 'conservatives' who care about the constitution went into Iraq and Afghanistan who are really what are known as neo-conservatives.

      Rand Paul committed political suicide on Rachel Maddows show. She tried doing everything by throwing him a rope and saying, "Dude, you are drowning! Grab on and let me pull you out!" so he's pretty much fucked.

      Ron Paul would be fantastic, but the same entitlements he speaks out against other states getting he accepts for his great state of Texas! We don't have ANYONE who isn't a puppet running. Even if we did have a fantastic candidate never forget this, "It does not matter votes, only who counts the votes." -Stalin

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by TheyCallMeX View Post
      "You another one of those left wing idiots who wants a free ride at the expense of the people who work."


      Bro I don't even watch the news/media. My statements are based off of sheer actions that these people have taken and done in public office.
      Then how do you know the actions if you do not watch the new or read the paper?



      Bush started the Patriot Act. Obama extended it

      Bush/Cheney did GITMO. What?? Are you saying Bush started GITMO

      Bush/Cheney, your 'conservatives' who care about the constitution went into Iraq and Afghanistan who are really what are known as neo-conservatives.
      Bush/Cheney are not conservatives, they grew the government and tripled our debt in 8 years. Not exactly conservative policies.

      Rand Paul committed political suicide on Rachel Maddows show. She tried doing everything by throwing him a rope and saying, "Dude, you are drowning! Grab on and let me pull you out!" so he's pretty much fucked.
      Rachel Maddow LOL that dyke bitch, are you serious. Now I see where you get your news and its starting to make sense
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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by Downtown View Post
      You another one of those left wing idiots who wants a free ride at the expense of the people who work.
      God, this pisses me off. How DARE the government do anything to help anyone? An entitlement mentality. The welfare system needs to be abolished and have private charity put in place--but you are sitting here saying NOTHING need be provided to anyone needing help by this country.

      Ohhhhh yeah bro....what a big bad thing! How dare the government do something about the General Welfare?! That's not in the constitution--wait....wait.. "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE..."

      Oh yeah, that is in there.


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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      here is my solution to welfare. you may be entitled to welfare for x amount of time. more kids doesnt get you more money. here is how the government helps you find a job. we have a great military here in this country correct? how about we conscript your lazy out of work ass and teach you a trade. oh yeah and it is free the government covers this bill with taxes. military not you gig, ok how about the state or fed government starts a program to beautify the states and such with your paid labor. good old manual labor. i am so sick and tired of these white trash pieces of shit popping out little ones and collecting a check that is bigger than some people i know who bust their asses. i am sure that their is other races that do this as well but i used the white trash one as an example

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      Default Re: Best Republican Candidate List for 2012...Michele Bachman?!

      Quote Originally Posted by TheyCallMeX View Post
      God, this pisses me off. How DARE the government do anything to help anyone? An entitlement mentality. The welfare system needs to be abolished and have private charity put in place--but you are sitting here saying NOTHING need be provided to anyone needing help by this country.

      Ohhhhh yeah bro....what a big bad thing! How dare the government do something about the General Welfare?! That's not in the constitution--wait....wait.. "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE..."

      Oh yeah, that is in there.

      If you have seen or heard, we are 14 trillion in debt right now. We can not afford to be helping out people who do not want to work.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Downtown View Post
      If you have seen or heard, we are 14 trillion in debt right now. We can not afford to be helping out people who do not want to work.

      So the people who did work, got laid off, have had their unemployment run out and have hungry children are not supposed to be looked after? You are speaking as if every person on welfare doesn't seek or look for work and we should just cut them out and forget about them all together.

      We are 14 trillion in debt because we spend ungodly amounts of money on two wars! People forget that history repeats itself. Rome and many other great empires fell because of an attempt at a military conquest, bankrupted the empire, and diminished. We need to stop putting so much money into WAR/Military and start putting MORE into EDUCATION!

      Does anybody remember what happened when states ran the educational system and plenty of cash was dropped into education? What happened?

      IBM, Apple, Microsoft, and many other technological advances that only education could help establish.

      We WERE the worlds superpower. As long as the media keeps telling us we're the greatest nation in the world and people continue to believe it, we'll continue giving up our rights one at a time until its Germany all over again.

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