Tweethell no not at all like i said before i am all about some good debating and you have great ideas and solutions.
my thing with the torture is this:
these arent your everyday normal people, they are dedicated to what they do and believe that it is gods will to do what they do. they dont respond to the normal investigative techs that a normal person would. i have seen and dealt with some of these nut jobs first hand(no i do not do any interrogations other than tactical questioning) and they would just as soon blow you and their self up as give you the time of day. we are infidels to them and their mindsets