ultimate orange was a staple, we all thought hot stuff was so great- it had everything in it so it was all you needed..... Then i remember when musl-mxt first came out, we thought for sure it had something illegal in it because of the label claims, don't remember if it did anything. I remember when vanadyl sulfate was the next big thing. I remember cybergenics getting pulled off the market for having roids in it, i think joe piscapo was a spokes person and all ripped up for it too. what about mega-mass4000?